| floating island | wave impact safe | bubble cluster structure | advanced cement composite technology |
| ocean.builders | project | interference | Thai Government |
| floating home | asia | the concept is “up and running” for thousands of years | i assume the Thai Navy does not molest them | and this is not even flagged | so it would run under unflagged pirate vessel … according to maritime law legal frames - but that would be laughable wouldn’t it ? | so the custom come along on the oceans that matters is - don´t molest - freedom of the seas |
so why not take that baseline and work from there … instead of pushing the navy out of its comfort zone…
| Thai Navy remove seastead |
Postulate:
For the sufficiently neurotic basicly ANYTHING new is a threat. So backup plans are required.
It may be convenient to start with something, that is almost the same as the things, that are already here, so it lifts little news, and creates no blisters, and then give it a little twist to set it on an evolutionary path towards seasteading, without creating much short term disruption.
| Floating home in the Cholon Area Cartagena | it looks a bit like a yacht blends into the ambient | never got molested | the need for blending in was already discussed and understood 2011 on the TSI discussion forums in the Seasteading Rincon thread |
| A floating Hotel blending in by simulating a Cruise Ship | in Gibraltar |
| monaco breakwater | a piece of floating real estate with a parkhouse and a shopping mall in it | as harbor infrastructure extension |
Non of these projects although holding a lot more living space than the spar was charged for planning to rip its host state apart…so what do we learn from this …
Patri Friedman Statement
Floating Islands Leader Urges Leniency for Offshore Couple
Seasteaders Offer to Help Thailand With Rising Sea Levels
San Francisco, April 22, 2019 — The chairman of the Seasteading Institute (https://www.seasteading.org/) Patri Friedman, urged compassion for a couple whose floating home was seized last week by the Thailand government, declaring that “their actions were no threat to Thai sovereignty” and “our organization works with governments and not against them”.
American Chad Elwartowski and his Thai partner Nadia Supranee Thepdet were not aboard when the Thai navy boarded the platform they had called home for several months. Thai authorities revoked the visa of Chad, an early bitcoin investor, and charged him and his partner with violating Thai sovereignty by floating the cabin 14 nautical miles off the west coast of the Thai island of Phuket.
Friedman said he “was shocked and saddened last week by media reports that this couple was charged with treason – punishable in Thailand by death or life imprisonment – simply because no one had filed paperwork for the floating home. This is like charging someone with a capital crime for not registering their car.”
He added “For Chad and Nadia, it was the realization of a romantic dream to live openly and peacefully on the ocean…I am deeply relieved to see that officials are considering dropping the death penalty.”
Friedman, grandson of Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman, suggested instead that “Thai authorities should follow the lead of the United Nations, who recommend floating cities be part of the global community’s new arsenal of tools in the fight against climate change.”
Using statistics from a recent United Nations High-Level conference on Sustainable Floating Cities in New York in early April, Friedman pointed to the Thai capital: “Seasteading concepts can help cities like Bangkok which are increasingly at risk of flooding. Some parts of the city are sinking by around two centimetres a year, while sea levels in the Gulf of Thailand are rising.”
He concluded that “we look forward to future partnerships with states, NGOs, and communities to test new ideas and solutions for all. We would be honored and delighted to share our research with the Thai government, as sustainable floating cities are a key tool to address climate change and other 21st century challenges.”
About The Seasteading Institute
The Seasteading Institute (TSI) is a United States 501©(3) non-profit. Our mission is to enable seasteading communities – floating cities – where pioneers can peacefully test new laws and political systems and inspire change in governments around the world. We work on this mission through research and education with individuals, organizations, and governments. Our current main initiative is sustainable seasteading through facilitating the creation of the first floating city.
As a non-profit organization dedicated to the entire seasteading movement, our role is not to build seasteads, but to empower others to do so. Our Floating City Project envisions a model wherein a nation and a company will establish a public-private partnership to construct and operate a floating city with significant legal autonomy that functions as an integrated and efficient product to meet the needs of citizens. This project builds on over a decade of engineering and legal research, political and maritime industry diplomacy, and building a community of aspiring seasteaders.
Floating Islands Leader Urges Leniency for Offshore Couple
Seasteaders Offer to Help Thailand With Rising Sea Levels
San Francisco, April 22, 2019 — The chairman of the Seasteading Institute (https://www.seasteading.org/) Patri Friedman, urged compassion for a couple whose floating home was seized last week by the Thailand government, declaring that “their actions were no threat to Thai sovereignty” and “our organization works with governments and not against them”.
American Chad Elwartowski and his Thai partner Nadia Supranee Thepdet were not aboard when the Thai navy boarded the platform they had called home for several months. Thai authorities revoked the visa of Chad, an early bitcoin investor, and charged him and his partner with violating Thai sovereignty by floating the cabin 14 nautical miles off the west coast of the Thai island of Phuket.
Friedman said he “was shocked and saddened last week by media reports that this couple was charged with treason – punishable in Thailand by death or life imprisonment – simply because no one had filed paperwork for the floating home. This is like charging someone with a capital crime for not registering their car.”
He added “For Chad and Nadia, it was the realization of a romantic dream to live openly and peacefully on the ocean…I am deeply relieved to see that officials are considering dropping the death penalty.”
Friedman, grandson of Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman, suggested instead that “Thai authorities should follow the lead of the United Nations, who recommend floating cities be part of the global community’s new arsenal of tools in the fight against climate change.”
Using statistics from a recent United Nations High-Level conference on Sustainable Floating Cities in New York in early April, Friedman pointed to the Thai capital: “Seasteading concepts can help cities like Bangkok which are increasingly at risk of flooding. Some parts of the city are sinking by around two centimetres a year, while sea levels in the Gulf of Thailand are rising.”
He concluded that “we look forward to future partnerships with states, NGOs, and communities to test new ideas and solutions for all. We would be honored and delighted to share our research with the Thai government, as sustainable floating cities are a key tool to address climate change and other 21st century challenges.”
About The Seasteading Institute
The Seasteading Institute (TSI) is a United States 501©(3) non-profit. Our mission is to enable seasteading communities – floating cities – where pioneers can peacefully test new laws and political systems and inspire change in governments around the world. We work on this mission through research and education with individuals, organizations, and governments. Our current main initiative is sustainable seasteading through facilitating the creation of the first floating city.
As a non-profit organization dedicated to the entire seasteading movement, our role is not to build seasteads, but to empower others to do so. Our Floating City Project envisions a model wherein a nation and a company will establish a public-private partnership to construct and operate a floating city with significant legal autonomy that functions as an integrated and efficient product to meet the needs of citizens. This project builds on over a decade of engineering and legal research, political and maritime industry diplomacy, and building a community of aspiring seasteaders.
Seasteading as upgrade of the existing international Yacht Community | Floating Marinas | Ibiza Floating Clubbing Platform | Cholon Floating Housing Development Caribbean |
Those floating marinas will be made on base of advanced cement composite honeycomb and shell building technology.
level 2
1 point · 8 minutes ago
What is here already in Cholon - a permanent yacht party scene - supported by a in part land based improvised infrastructure…we are improving on that…
In its appearance it is a bit like Ephemerisle - just it is always there … it is in the caribbean…it is hurricane free…it is a economic factor already…authorities have already consiented to let it go and grow…if you think it through this is more or less what the seasteading community had in mind when discussing Seasteading Outpost Belize, and Seasteading Outpost Rincon, it just happend without any interaction with the TSI .
level 3
1 point · 7 minutes ago
more pictures about it:
… i don´t think that there is a remote chance that the colombian navy will show up - pretend to throw everybody in jail destroy the boats and huts and end it for good.
It has become a tourism magnet and is part of the Cartagena Tourist Promotion - so i assume it has turned out convenient for those in power … check it on Google -
Left in the picture the small cabin boat that was part of the Seastead cluster ( while everybody talked about the spar - nobody talked about the the boat) but it saved Chad´s life due to its “oceanic mobiliti” - with this boat Chad and Nadia disappeared on the wide blue ocean.
Altough “quite easy to detect” compared to one of our submersible habitats - it was enough to outmatch the “detection capability” of the Thai Navy and bring Chad and Nadia to safety.
We should learn from that incident.
The First Seasteaders , shows the raising of the 20-meter spar, during which Elwartowski proclaimed, “To all those out there who want to control people’s lives through force, here’s my big finger to you.”
…looks like the “empire strikes back” … when called out…by rebells…time to change the movie…
Maybe go for the more reasonable, evolutionary and cooperative approach is a better method…
3 Phase Plan for seasteading development
| As postulated and discussed april 2015 |
Each phase comes with its own “range of possibilities and freedoms to negotiate” .
What should be avoided in the waypoint path to seasteading is trying impossible things like.:
- get sufficient upfront money to build a phase 3 seastead from scrap in a singularity
- negotiate the political conditions for a phase 3 stead BEFORE having a phase 1 stead on the water.
- talk a lot about phase 3 steads, get a laughstorm, and never be taken seriouly enough, to get phase 1 stead moving forward.
- avoid all kind of “pointless experiments” that discredit the cause of seasteading
- puting “weirdo-stead” to the media centerstage instead of “marine business stead” - i understand that weirdo-stead brings “media ratings” and “amazing salon talk” but it is toxic for serious business development.
… this was discussed and well understood years ago…nevertheless TSI went to president after president ( honduras, tahiti, ) without having a single floating squaremeter to show…and tried to negotiate as if it where a state…just to see any of the presidents pulling out very quick…
- And then Chad went to defy the Thai government with a hut on a mastil…
• Time for a paradigm change ?
• A wider project development pipeline ?
• Let go the radical defiance ideas ?
Postulate:
Seasteading ( in the early phases) is about forging mutual beneficial alliances on a local level (city councel) with shore communities - certaily not about confronting states and navies.
| spar | anchor sistem |
Article | fee.org |
| The World’s First Seasteaders Are Now on the Run for Their Lives |
The only radical action taken by Chad Elwartowski and Supranee Thepdet was their decision to live together in such a small space at the edge of the ocean.
Wednesday, May 8, 2019
What was discussed in May 2017 between Chad and me on one of the old seasteading forums, is interesting to read now in the light of the Thailand events…
| correctly size wave impacts | draupner |
| ocean engineering | open ocean wave impacts | draupner |